
(image thanks to Deviantart user MarcosVolta)
(Note: This is a continuation of the story started here, and has a followup here.)
Once again, thanks to B-Money for bringing this to my attention.
I can’t be sure if this is due to the ever-growing fan backlash thanks to the various Coldplay message boards (some of which linked here too – thanks!), or pressure from Coldplay, or the sudden wakeup from Capitol, but this morning the terms and conditions page for the opening for Coldplay contest I wrote about two days ago are all changed. Let’s take my previous points of contention and see where they are now. Here are the new rules for reference. I had the good sense to archive the page this time around as well – I wish I did last time, too.
- My first point was a minor one (not good persuasive writing, I know). Live Nation and Capitol reserve the right at any time to disqualify “inappropriate” submission, without any veto remedy. This is understandable from Capitol’s angle; they want to be in power here. It’s simply far too easy to envision a truly visionary band being dismissed my companies simply for being too different. Coldplay I’m sure would have some stories about that. I know the Stone Roses do.
- Originally, you granted Capitol an unlimited, royalty-free license to use the work you submitted. This was handy from a promotional angle, but nothing would stop Capitol from, say, licensing it to a campaign ad and collecting the royalties all for themselves. Now the wording has changed to say “each member of the winning band grants permission for Sponsor and those acting under its authority to use his/her name, photograph, voice and/or likeness, for advertising and/or publicity purposes, in any and all media now known or hereinafter invented without territorial or time limitations and without additional compensation.” Totally understandable, and much more of a reasonable condition. Capitol is going to want to promote this show with your no-doubt pretty and/or handsome mugs, right? Were this a negotiation I may want to put a cap on the time limit, but there is no negotiation to be had here. What’s interesting to me is that instead of saying they have an irrevocable license to use your song for promotion, they lay no claim over the right to use your song. Technically, any use by Capitol is unauthorized, but you’d be a bit foolish to go after them for advertising your song for the Coldplay show (if that campaign song thing happens, though, I may want to consider a strongly worded letter).
- All claim that Capitol may, to quote the old agreement, “edit, adapt, composite, mix, remix, morph, scan, duplicate, alter and/or otherwise modify and commercially exploit your submission, in whole or in part, without any restrictions as to changes,” is gone. Chalk one up for creative control.
- Perhaps most interesting of all, all of the language about Capitol holding the exclusive right for 60 days to enter you into a recording contract, the (incredibly harsh) terms of which were all laid out in the old terms and conditions – including such hits as no artist accomidations, total transfer of all rights in the songs, total waiving of all moral rights [which, by the way, you can't do becuase they're inalienable by nature], and vague clauses about this falling under the terms and conditions of a standard recording contract from Capitol without any indication as to what those terms are – all are totally removed from the new terms and conditions. No mention whatsoever.
So, can we call this a victory? Did the online roars of many reach the desks on the top floor of that LA office building? Perhaps. If you make decisions based soley on the actual bounds of the rules I’d say this is a totally fair contest at this point (though I still have some issue with the prize package with forced approval by Live Nation and joke of a cash payment). By the sheer nature of the new terms and conditions this is an okay game to play.
However, if you consider the character of the other party at the table as much as what’s written in the contract, I’d still stay away from this one. Capitol cannot be let off the hook so easily. It was no mistake that the provisions of the contest were so restrictive, controlling, and malicious. Capitol thought in this case they could wave Coldplay in front of your face with the right hand while the left went into your pocket for your wallet. Their changing of the rules was no doubt due to some external influence. In other words, the Devil may offer you a fair deal, but you are still negotiating with the Devil. Be careful.
On the other side of the issue, in as much as they deserve shame for the previous contest rules, FNX and Coldplay and all other parties deserve credit for any influence they had in changing about the rules, and dedicated Coldplay fans deserve some thanks for raising hell about the issue. Thanks to all the new readers as well who came by for this post from the Coldplay boards. Hope you stick around.

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Pingback by Capitol Records and Coldplay as Mephistopheles « Andy on the Road — 3 July 2008 @ 11:49 am |
Hey there Andy (Andy?)
I’m the singer of the band The Luxury, second video down on the list. And I wrote the song, as well. In fact, in the video I “portray” some singing mouse puppets, in addition to myself.
I’m relieved that Capitol took the forced record contract out of the agreement. And I agree with Chris Pappas (The Everyday Visuals, one of my favorite bands since they lived in New Hampshire) on a lot of points, and had this talk with him shortly after he wrote that blog entry. And I’ve had to defend myself to more than one person regarding our decision to enter and compete in this thing. So why the hell are we doing it?
Well, you say Capitol would “wave Coldplay in front of your face with the right hand while the left went into your pocket for your wallet.” Yes, this is completely true. I would expect nothing less of a corporate media giant that is flailing about in an industry that can’t keep up with or wrap its head around emerging technology or evolving creativity (both ironic, no?). The thing for us is, like a lot of bands, that wallet is perpetually empty.
We’re an independent band, and our album did quite well on college radio last year. We play New York and the Northeast regularly, and are headed to California on our own dime in the fall. But in this economy, that doesn’t amount to record sales – not anymore. So while we’ve done OK, and we’re certainly proud, we’re still in debt, we’ve been slugging it out for quite a while to little avail, and let’s face it – the industry pendulum seldom swings to Boston. And it’s a broken industry anyway!
There are simply so many bands out there that your chances at exposure on this level are practically non-existent – even if it’s a 20-minute slot while people take their seats. And that $2000? Small change, but it would certainly help with our plane tickets to CA.
Some bands get lucky, someone stumbles across their music who loves it and happens to license music for TV, film, or commercials, whatever… but the market is so flooded right now that no matter how good you might be and no matter how awful “what’s on the radio” might be, it’s not going to turn the ol’ Wheels of Justice.
So while I wholeheartedly agree with yourself and Mr. Pappas, and agree that the original terms set forth in the “agreement” were unthinkably evil, we went ahead and applied, got into the top 15 (2nd video down), and yes, are actively vying for the top spot. Why? Well, there’s always the slim, slim chance that something might go as unthinkably right as it usually goes wrong, and given one fish’s chances in a flooded pond, sometimes you just have to take a risk. And for me, risking one song by hanging it above the Alligator Pit Of Evil isn’t all that bad, considering there’s always that chance.
Jason
PS – if you can stomach it, go ahead and vote for us.
Comment by Jason (of The Luxury) — 10 July 2008 @ 2:16 pm |
Alternatively, you could vote for Hello Ninja. Our production values are unparalleled (2nd video from the bottom, opens with the sleekest effects iMovie can transpose onto a jpg).
But, in all seriousness, thanks for posting these entries. I read the contest rules after we submitted (bright move) which was after they had been modified to their present form. I’m sure your words and those of other like-minded individuals had an influence on the new terms of entry.
Thanks for carrying the torch for the little guy!
Best,
Cat (& the Ninjas)
Comment by Cat (Hello Ninja) — 10 July 2008 @ 5:38 pm |
Is COLDPLAY changing the rules again to suit the artist they want to win. The rules stated the top 3 and now they are posting the top 5. They are stating that the votes were so close that they are posting the top 5. In one contest the top 3 were seperated by 300 votes between first and second place and 50 votes between 2nd and 3rd. Fourth place was 1200 votes behind. However, the 4th place finisher happens to be an artist that has some songs on mtv etc. A very good artist. Now, it appears she may be in the running. I find it deceitful to change the rules after the voting is closed to what appears get the artist in that COLDPLAY and the radio station want to win.
Comment by Rob Dunn — 21 July 2008 @ 10:31 pm |
Hi Rob -
Thanks for bringing this to the discussion. Again, this is exactly what we can expect from this sort of a contest, and is understandable, ironically, from the angle of Coldplay. What if the public chooses a band they don’t actually like? Now they tacitly are endorsing a band they don’t want to. Bands like Coldplay have an auteur they have an interest in protecting.
Now, that said, they shouldn’t promise something they cannot or will not deliver. It appears to be noble of them to give “any band a shot” at getting on the bill, but by going ahead and changing the rules to suit their needs they come off even worse than if they had never offered the contest at all.
Thanks for stopping by.
Comment by Andy — 21 July 2008 @ 11:47 pm |
Hey all – we won. I can promise you it wasn’t rigged – we were as confused by the changes as anyone, and weren’t in any way convinced we’d win until we got the call from the radio station.
I don’t know what went on with the weirdness, but tomorrow we’re playing a monumentally historical venue in front of a huge crowd, and I’m amazed and thrilled.
Cheers.
Jason
Comment by Jason (of The Luxury) — 4 August 2008 @ 1:56 am |
Hey – congrats to Jason and The Luxury. I very much hope the experience is just as amazing as you wish. Break a leg out there.
Thanks to everybody emailing and commenting on this one, and best of luck to the careers of Hello Ninja, The Motion Sick, and everybody else. I hope someday soon you all can fill the Garden without Coldplay’s help.
Comment by Andy — 4 August 2008 @ 10:34 am |